Mayor backs call for directory delivery change

Stacks of Yellow Pages dumped on a block of flats in Auckland in recent weeks. PHOTO: SUPPLIED
Stacks of Yellow Pages dumped on a block of flats in Auckland in recent weeks. PHOTO: SUPPLIED
As Yellow Pages telephone directories start landing in Otago mailboxes over the next week, Dunedin’s mayor has lent his support to one man’s campaign to change how they are delivered.

Auckland small business adviser Geoff Neal has called for an end to the "unsolicited delivery" of the directories after he found dozens of unclaimed copies at his apartment building — most of which ended up in wheelie bins.

He said Yellow Pages produced about 1.9 million copies a year and distributed them to 96% of households and businesses across New Zealand.

However, he conducted a recent survey which found 96% of the 1060 respondents did not want one.

"Yellow Pages pollution is coming your way and will be dropped on 96% of all Dunedin and Otago households over the next fortnight, despite all evidence suggesting more than 90% of these are instantly trashed," Mr Neal said.

"That equates to more than 600 tonnes of unwanted, unsolicited, unnecessary trash per year.

Geoff Neal
Geoff Neal
"It is an ongoing environmental disaster that must be stopped."

Mr Neal said he had opted out of receiving the directory several times, but he still continued to receive them every year.

"Enough’s enough.

"It’s time to take action. With an environmental crisis and everyone calling for climate change action, it’s the time to call this nonsense out.

"If we can’t stop this dumb pollution, then we haven’t got much hope."

He said the option to opt-out was clearly not working, so he called on Yellow to change it to an opt-in publication.

"I’m a big fan of making the directories opt-in, or treating them as junk mail.

"White Pages are already opt-in. Yellow Digital is opt-in. Email is opt-in. Junk mail is opt-in. Progressive nations and states moved to opt-in years ago."

The idea has struck a chord with Mayor Aaron Hawkins.

"I can’t, for the life of me, remember the last time I used a phone book of any sort, but not everyone has access to digital platforms.

"At the same time, we can’t keep putting the burden of waste reduction on individuals, which the current opt-out system does.

"An opt-in system would provide access to people who genuinely need it, while avoiding unnecessary waste for those who don’t."

Aaron Hawkins.
Aaron Hawkins.
Support for the campaign continues to grow around the country.

Yellow chief executive Tracey Taylor said the company had a long-standing agreement with the Government to provide the books with equal access to all New Zealanders.

The books included important area-specific information such as emergency and medical information.

"We believe a sense of equitable access is important when you consider the range of ages, abilities and access to the internet across New Zealand.

"Not everyone has ultra-fast broadband at home, and Google doesn't always work when it comes to searching for someone or something in their community.

"It's important to understand that 37% of small businesses in New Zealand have no online presence.

"We're working hard to help change that, but the reality is there's still a role for both print and digital marketing."

She said the 114,500 books delivered in Otago and the 57,100 in Southland were made from waste, and the plastic wrap could be recycled.

About 180,000 New Zealand businesses advertised in Yellow Pages, and Neilsen Research data showed there were millions of look-ups, and four out of five people followed up with an inquiry.

Yellow provided information about an Auckland plumber who said he advertised on Google and Yellow, and found he got a better return on investment from Yellow.

However, Laser Plumbing Dunedin owner/manager Murray Ford said it was not the case for him or the managers of the other Laser Plumbing offices in Alexandra and Queenstown.

"Phone books are so hard to read for people like me these days. You need a magnifying glass.

"Young people don’t use the phone book. It’s more digital. We have a lot of emails every morning, from people making inquiries."

He said he only put minimal information in the directory to cover off his marketing bases.

"I can’t justify the $20,000 ads with the big pictures. It’s not worth it. No way in hell would it generate that kind of work for me."

john.lewis@odt.co.nz

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The irony is that I suspect it's older people who still use the whitepages. But the printing is so small that anyone over 50 can't read it.

"However, he conducted a recent survey which found 96% of the 1060 respondents did not want one" how was the survey conducted?, where was it conducted, who was surveyed? etc, did he also conduct a survey where he assumes "everyone calling for climate change action"?, besides how about we back a call to drop our (so called) mayor.

Hi Nivaman. It was a random sample on LinkedIn. Definitely not a group with "everyone calling for climate change action". LinkedIn is the most grown-up social platform with the smartest audience. Some online bias there, but 1,060 votes is a lot, and 96% saying they don't want one is sending an incredibly strong message to Yellow. You can look me up on LI if you like.

To back this up, former Yellow staff have called me up and said that back in 2016 "70-90% got instantly thrown out depending on the region". So, Yellow already know most are instantly trashed.

To back this up even further, I've engaged with thousands of Kiwis on this issue, walked neighbourhoods, talked to residents (including many 70-80+ who don't want one), and I've seen most going straight into bins. This strongly supports 80-90%+ not wanting one.

Ahhh...no it doesn't. A scientific survey means you RANDOMLY select 1600 people using something like a random number generator. This sample will give you a margin of error of 5%. The sample you are talking about is not random and doesn't represent the population of people who need to use the yellow pages. People not on LinkedIn are more likely to need yellow pages than those on it. The sample is linkedin users not citizens living in dunedin. The poll is flawed in it's construct. That said, couldn't care less about what the mayor says about the yellow pages. He has bigger issues he needs to face like proposed rates increases. Most people google the number vs yellow pages.

You make a lot of claims but fail to back them up with facts of what you claim, now this "linkedin" is not a representative sample of the populace but rather the people who use it, now who listens to hawkins these days, he doesn't bother to listen to the ratepayers.

Red-Pill,
1) I never said it was a "scientific survey". Why did you make this up?
2) Where did you pull your 1600 sample size number from? 1,000 is a very decent sample size for a poll.
3) I alreadypre-empted my comments by saying there was bias there, but you can't ignore 96% of a 1000 group of Kiwis saying they don't want one. That's sending a very clear message about waste.
4) Did you read my comment about former Yellow staff calling me and saying 70-90% get thrown out depending on the region? What about how I've engaged with thousands of Kiwis, walked streets, seen bins?
5) All evidence is pointing to most turning into instant trash. Yellow won't share %s.
6) You support the argument yourself by saying most people Google numbers. Great! Let's not trash NZ with these Yellow books which only get 0.046 lookups per Kiwi per day (Yellows data)
7) Any Mayor must tackle both the big issues and quick, easy wins.

Nivaman,
a) I never said it was "a representative sample of the populace". Why did you make this up?
b) You say I "fail to back them up with facts" but I'm bringing a lots of facts about the pollution caused. Yellow is hiding facts. Did you even read my comment?

Good to see Aaron tackling the big issues

Absolutely amazing the mayor could make such a complicated decision on his own. Kudos Mr Mayor, another job well done!

Amazing. The invisible mayor pops his head up to talk about a non urgent issue (again) that isn't about Dunedin. Rate increases, power price increases (by a DCC owned company), lead in drinking water... just a few things that may be slightly more pressing to make comments about and show some leadership than spouting "green values". Dunedin needs a leader that knows how to lead and not follow someone else's doctrine.

Hey Bonjobob,

Any Mayor needs to tackle both the biggest issues and easy, quick wins. Wouldn't you agree?

This is absolutely about Dunedin! If you'd cared to read the article in full, it's your turn to have these Yellow books dumped on your beautiful city over the next two weeks even though you never got a chance to opt-in, and most are trashed instantly. That is no good for the city or region's environment. They should only go to those who will use it.

Why do you use the phrase "spouting green values"? Do you not think it's important to reduce waste forced on individuals and businesses that they didn't ask for and that are instantly thrown out adding no value to society, only environmental costs?

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