Expected floor area seen as inadequate

Michael Woodhouse. Photo: ODT files
Michael Woodhouse. Photo: ODT files
"Six football fields" of floor space in the new Dunedin Hospital has disappeared and a facility that is too important to get wrong may prove to be inadequate, National Party health spokesman Michael Woodhouse says.

Budget pressures have led planners for the hospital development to consider erecting a single hospital building rather than the planned two buildings.

The two-building model — a day surgery building and an acute services building — remains, but planners estimate the new building will have around 89,000sq m of floor space.

When the Southern District Health Board appeared before Parliament’s health select committee earlier this year, Mr Woodhouse pressed officials on the new hospital’s likely footprint.

"We have lost six football fields from a hospital footprint which was, by the best estimates, the minimum footprint that an effective tertiary-level hospital would need," Mr Woodhouse said yesterday.

"The revelation we are likely to see 89,000sq m when what is really needed is 95[sq m] at a minimum worries me greatly ... this is too important to get wrong."

The $1.4 billion hospital project encountered budgetary issues last year, mainly due to the likely expense of foundation work.

Clinicians and planners have since been wrangling over the final size of the hospital and what services will be in the building and what will be excluded.

One clinician said yesterday a building of the size proposed would not be fit for purpose when it opened, a concern Mr Woodhouse echoed.

"Eighty-nine thousand was a number that clinicians could not accept and 95 was considered the optimal number; we have lost six of those 7000sq m.

"My biggest concern is that we still don’t have a detailed business case approved; we are now six weeks behind the extended deadline they gave themselves, we still don’t have it, and the issues that the project had back then are clearly still going on."

Money was clearly the main sticking point, as Treasury was not prepared to accept a hospital that cost more than budgeted and it appeared "a decent hospital will cost more", Mr Woodhouse said.

Earlier, Southern Partnership Group chairman Pete Hodgson said planners remained unsure what the budget for the project — for which the Government has ringfenced $1.4 billion — would end up being.

"My view is that it may well come in above the $1.2-$1.4 [billion], but not by much; we may well be pushing out the timelines, but not by much."

Mr Hodgson — who said he hoped the detailed business case would go before Cabinet before the election — said he was "quite confident" the amount of floor space in the final building would be fit for purpose.

"We are still nailing the final bits but the important thing with any hospital is to get the important bits sorted; the emergency department, the number of intensive care and high dependency beds and flexibility between the two, and the number of surgical theatres, and we are just about to put numbers on that.

"I can tell you that there will be five day surgical theatres in the little building, when at one stage we thought there would only be four, and at one point three."

Clutha Mayor Bryan Cadogan said any possible cuts in space for the hospital would be disappointing, and said the facility should be designed to meet community need rather than meet a budgeted cost.

"It would be a concern if the need was still there but the size wasn’t ... we only have one chance to get this right."

mike.houlahan@odt.co.nz

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Worth remembering what Winston Peters had to say about the political promises made by Labour about Dunedin Hospital during last election. As covered by ODT here: https://www.odt.co.nz/news/election-2017/hospital-promises-questioned

What has been bought to light by the covid thing is how few ICU beds we have in this country, so one would assume that will be fixed with this hospital. Remembering we still have a rather large earthquake coming...

As for foundation costs being high, well that's no surprise. Reclaimed land. I hate the incompetence of the people running this place, just sack them.

We are going to build 100,000 houses with Kiwibuild.
We are going to build a state of the art hospital for the SDHB.
We are going to .....
Yeah, right !!!
Words of good intentions, produces nothing.
Words of concern, produces nothing.
All they are, are pleas of support for the speaker.
We need people of integrity, that produce, not more political gaslighting.

Given the government is already signaling they want to pump money into infrastructure post lock down the hospital should be getting larger not smaller. Sounds to me like we need more people with the courage and knowledge to challenge the government and less yes men involved.

It would make common sense to:

1. Reduce the number of floors and increase the area of each floor plate. That decreases foundation loads/cost, increases layout flexibility and allows operational efficiency.There is plenty of space on the site to do this.

2. Build floor plates with maximum clear space for flexible layout planning and future changes. External walls take shear forces.

3. Allow a margin for expansion of core facilities eg ICU. The spare space can be allocated for other purposes till needed.

4. The heating services can be based of ground heat exchangers on the site (clean. green and low cost) instead of the existing steam system.

5. Use light construction ie steel frame/light concrete floors/dry construction to decrease dead loads and allow speed of erection.

These are observations based on many years personal experience of hospital design.

@DSHOP, it would appear 'common sense' in regard to this particular project wasn't/isn't nessessary. You raise some very good ideas, shame the likes of yourself aren't involved.

The Chinese in Wuhan built a steel framed hospital for corona virus patients in less then 6 weeks.
There is a video to show it being built and no this is not communist propaganda....it actually happened.
We spend far too much time contemplating our bureacratic navels instead of getting on with the job.

1. Quote- "The $1.4 billion hospital project encountered budgetary issues last year, mainly due to the likely expense of foundation work."-
-Then it would appear someone hasn't done their homework before the application for funding went in. The proposed site is reclaimed land, and well known as that, so how did that escape the budget planning? Who will stand up and take responsibility for the substandard initial estimate causing this issue?

2. Quote- "Clinicians and planners have since been wrangling over the final size of the hospital and what services will be in the building and what will be excluded."-
-Why is the tail wagging the dog? The clinicians know what is needed, they know the numbers, they know how the whole thing works. The planners move on, while the clinicians and the public live with the size and layout imposed by the planners. And before anyone says, "oh yes, but they had a budget of only $1.4b to work with." refer back to part 1. of this post.

Losing hope in Labour, it appears this was yet another shallow election promise, as shallow as the very foundations of an ill concieved project. Just like Kiwi Build, another failure for tax payers.

Added to this, where's the Chairman of our Health Board? And why isn't he demanding some responsibility and answers as to why the basics have been overlooked? Why isn't he and the Board championing our clinicians? Does he sit comfortably with the project as it stands? Has he more confidence in Hodgson than his clinicians?
Where's the Mayor and CEO on this? They should all be petitioning the wheels of Treasury and Cabinet, not just sitting back in silence and accepting the failures. Why are we getting stuck with yet another inferior project? And what does the future of this new build hold? There appears to be more disappoint on the horizon. People are rightly losing confidence in our leaders. The incompetence is palatable. A very basic mistake in planning has been made.......who's responsible?

If floor area is being removed then some services are being removed. This is becoming a very smaelly secretive project aiming to please no one but Wellington and Auckland bureaucrats.
What are planners hiding from the people of Dunedin?

Do it right or don't do it at all! Make the building plain, practical and big enough, with options for expansion in future if / when population grows. It is ridiculous that the people planning this new build seem to be using current bed and service levels as the starting point for determining services to be provided when current service levels are so obviously inadequate. This project is certainly off to an inauspicious start.

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