Andy Ellis has made his feelings known and now his chief executive Hamish Riach has joined him - the Crusaders want to base themselves at a covered stadium.
Unfortunately for those two, and probably the rest of the Crusaders and a fair few of their supporters, it isn't quite as simple as that. And adding to the difficulty is the fact Christchurch City Council staff have recommended the new Crusaders base be uncovered.
Christchurch Mayor Bob Parker and his councillors will this week consider a draft annual plan which will look into a new stadium and other key city facilities following the earthquakes in the region.
Public consultation opens on April 20, with a final annual plan adopted by the council in June. A rates rise of 7.5 per cent has been recommended which will go some way to cover the city's repairs and improvements.
Crusaders halfback Ellis has spoken about the need for the city to have a covered stadium like Dunedin's and hopes council staff will change their minds but there is little chance of that. He will have to hope public submissions sway things before a final decision.
Riach, too, said the new Forsyth Barr Stadium had shown the way for the South Island.
In the meantime the Crusaders will continue to base themselves at their new temporary stadium in Addington - their next match there is against the Stormers on Saturday night - because any new stadium will take more than five years to build.
"Our view is the what, not the where,'' said Riach. "We believe if you get a first-rate international stadium with a roof, it will be just fine on the existing site or somewhere else. The site is a lot less important to us.''
Riach said a capacity of 30,000 would suit the Crusaders.
"The recommendation in the draft plan is uncovered and 35,000 and we're staying we'd be perfectly happy to drop some capacity in order to achieve the roof, as a balancing factor or a compromise.
"We just think the opportunity to do that, particularly in the South Island, is the future proofing which would make it all worthwhile.''
Council staff have listed six options for the new stadium, which will be on the former Lancaster Park site. Four of those are rectangular like the Addington layout, and unlike the Crusaders' old base at the condemned AMI Stadium, which had a capacity of 42,000.
Riach said he was reassured to see a rectangular model, rather than an oval-shaped one which doesn't suit rugby, as the preferred council option. With cricket in the city likely to be played at Hagley Oval in the future, a football-specific stadium is likely to be selected.
The deciding factors, as ever, are likely to come down to funds, with the Crusaders' preference costing $35 million more than the council's. And, like at the old AMI Stadium, the Crusaders and Canterbury rugby will be tenants, not owners. Their submission will be just one of many.
However, the predicted cost of a 30,000-capacity indoor facility - about $109m - stacks up well compared to Dunedin's stadium which cost about $200m and has a similar capacity.
A roof would also make the stadium more attractive for concerts - as the Dunedin venue has proved - and other sports teams such as the Warriors and Phoenix.
COUNCIL OPTIONS
• 1 Repair Deans Stand and replace Paul Kelly Stand. Capacity: 35,000. Cost after insurance: $49.6m. Build time: 4.5 years
• 2 Rebuild like for like. Capacity: 39,859. Cost after insurance: $66.6m. Build time: 4 years
• 3 New uncovered, rectangular stadium. Capacity: 30,000. Cost after insurance: $39.6m. Build time: 5 years
• 4 New covered, rectangular stadium. Capacity: 30,000. Cost after insurance: $109m. Build time: 5.5 years
• 5 (Council staff recommendation): New uncovered, rectangular stadium. Capacity: 35,000. Cost after insurance: $74.6m. Build time: 5 years
• 6 New covered, rectangular stadium. Capacity: 35,000. Cost after insurance: $144.6m. Build time: 5.5 years
