Independents want more than 'barking dogs'

Tony Windsor
Tony Windsor
Independent MP Tony Windsor says Australia has one of the worst examples of the Westminster system, where politics has been reduced to "two dogs barking".

Mr Windsor, with fellow independents Bob Katter and Rob Oakeshott, and new Australian Greens MP Adam Bandt, took part in a panel discussion at the National Press Club today.

While Mr Bandt has indicated he would back a Labour minority government, the independents are undecided, but have stressed they remain independent, and are not a bloc.

The men issued a call for information on seven key points, before entering any negotiations with Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.

Mr Windsor said a letter sent to them was a "pre-emptive pathway" to power, ahead of talks once counting is complete next week.

Mr Windsor said voters wanted things to change, and he would not support a government that had an intention to rush back to the polls.

"One of the things we've done in this country is probably create one of the worst examples of the Westminster system, where it's actually become too confrontational," he said.

"There's an expectation, and even within the media, that it will be the two dogs barking, and that's what the reporting is made of.

"We're trying to establish a pathway that's slightly different to that."

Mr Windsor said the men could not reveal the entire plan at this point.

He stopped short when a bell rang to indicate he had talked for three minutes, and joked that he needed to set an example for his long-winded colleague Mr Katter.

Independent MP Bob Katter told the audience he was concerned that free trade was decimating rural Australia.

"It's wonderful to free trade ... but if you're doing it and no one else is doing it, it will close down your food industries and your manufacturing industries," he warned.

Mr Katter said Australia had become a net importer of fruit, vegetables, pork and seafood, and was on track to become a net importer of food in general. He said this was disastrous for the bush.

"Every year you own a business you know it's going to get less and less," he said.  "Every year you know your kids are going to leave because there's no jobs for them in the local town."

Two constituents had had to pull their own teeth out because they could not find a dentist.

Mr Katter spoke against the stranglehold of Coles and Woolworths on the grocery market, saying this was difficult for farmers.

He called for more opportunities for renewable energy in northern Queensland, saying clean wind, solar and biofuel plants should be hooked into the electricity grid.

Mr Katter showed a photo of himself in Brazil filling up his car on cheap petrol, in apparent support of Australia's ethanol industry.

Mr Oakeshott spoke about the "return of the local member" as the building block of parliamentary democracy, not political party democracy.

"And I get the irony that a new gang of four's in town," he said referring to former prime minister Kevin Rudd's kitchen cabinet, including Julia Gillard, Wayne Swan and Lindsay Tanner.

"But I assure you we act for good, not evil ... good government, not bad government."

Mr Oakeshott wants more power delivered to each of the 150 lower house MPs.

"We have lost the focus on the local member."

"The sky doesn't fall in when we think differently. We actually achieve better results on the ground," he said.

Mr Windsor said he didn't necessarily believe Tony Crook, from the WA Nationals, should automatically be considered one of the coalition seats to form a minority government.

While Mr Crook has indicated a desire to sit in the Nationals party room, he also wants to sit on the crossbenches.

In WA, the Nationals and Liberals have a different relationship to the federal coalition.

"If he's not a part of the coalition, he's a crossbench, and that's the way I look at the numbers at the moment," Mr Windsor said.

Mr Oakeshott said Mr Crook could make his own decisions but he took aim at the 145 or 146 members of the major parties who were "opting out" of making this government work.

"(They're) leaving delegated authority in the hands of four people," he said. "I would hope there's some reverse pressure ... in asking where the other local members of parliament are in this issue of national interest."

Mr Bandt said during the campaign people wanted an end to discrimination against same-sex couples and more compassionate treatment of asylum seekers.

"But most importantly ... they want a price on carbon," Mr Bandt said drawing applause from the audience.

"When the only party that goes to the election asking for an immediate price on carbon is the party that has the largest swing to it, that is a message that can't be ignored."

He said scientists want the country to act urgently, the business community is saying "just get on with it", and the community is standing up and making "a clear and loud statement".

"The opportunity we now have in this parliament is to take that action so that business, community and everyone can move on and we can safeguard this planet for future generations," he said.

When asked about the information the independents are seeking on costings of election promises and budget updates, Mr Oakeshott said he would not seek for all that information to be made public.

"If there are sensitivities in the national interest ... well no," he said when asked if he would seek to make the information public.

"We're not here as wreckers."

Mr Windsor said "most of it should be (made public)", but accepted that information on matters like defence should be kept private.

The men were asked if they would accept a ministry in the next government or the speakership, and how they would take into account the views of their electors.

Mr Oakeshott said calls to his office were "running pretty hot".

"But in the end, they have elected someone to fulfil responsibilities as a member of parliament and that is to act without fear or favour," he said.

Mr Bandt said becoming a minister or speaker was not a priority for him, while Mr Windsor and Mr Katter ruled out both options too.

Mr Katter said his electorate was his sole concern.

"I've bought and sold cattle for a large portion of my life, and I'd like to think I could drive a deal," he said.

Mr Windsor said there was an item in the independents' letter to the leaders that might separate which party was most serious about forming a stable, full-term government.

"I will support that party that is the most serious about looking at some of these issues and the reform processes that we may have to be interested in, if in fact there is a hung parliament," he said.

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